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In my experience, Atheists are in the overwhelming majority amongst the hundred or so Male Aspies I've met, but female Aspies seem to be far more likely but still well less than the norm to believe in omnipresence. Perhaps it's more of a social indoctrination thing All this being said, I have met several Aspies who were fundamentalists mainly Christianity, but others too where religion had become their Special Interest. August 6, at 4: I have Aspergers and I have a deep faith. I have no problem with the concept of a higher being who created me and whom I cannot fully understand. However, I've never really fit into church groups, and I have no patience for the double standards so often found in churches, and contradictions in what people claim to believe and what their actual actions reveal about their priorities.
August 15, at 7: Loop Not Defined said…. I believe I have Asperger's but cannot afford testing at this time, so take that as you will. Some relatives eventually gave me a picture bible as a gift, which I attempted to understand, but approached it as a textbook - eventually it was abandoned, as I got little out of it and understood even less. Then around the age of 12, I discovered the word "atheist" and immediately knew that it applied to me. Just the notion of simply not believing hadn't occurred to me until then August 30, at 4: This different presentation may be a social thing - Aspie girls generally, but not always, tend to be more social and networked than Aspie males - or maybe than girls tend to apply logic less rigidly than the guys I myself am an Atheist, have been since kindergarten!
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August 31, at From the comments, it appears the answer is "it varies. October 8, at Robison, I am a mother of two sons ages 18 and 21, the elder was diagnosed at 17 with Asperger's. Knowing what I know now, I believe their father and myself to both be on the spectrum as well. Their father is a strict, closed-minded Anglican-turned-Mennonite, we divorced over his rigid take on life. The boys now live with me full time, and tolerate their Dad well. I'd have to describe the tow of them as solid atheist and myself as a profoundly alone spiritualist.
It is organized religion we three object to, the judgmental, forced-eye contact methods of assimilation are Borg-like, and racist against our kind, in our "view". November 14, at I am a conservative Christian who has Aspergers. I was formerly an atheist. I think Aspies tend to be more self-focused and it takes a rather dramatic event to move them into the Christian world.
November 22, at If God is defined as an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, omni-benevolent being, then one logical question is why does God allow indiscriminate suffering? In my opinion, the logical answer is that such a God does not exist. But even a person who does not believe in such a God probably believes in something. In my opinion, the belief that a person will actually continue to live after the person has died has no basis whatsoever.
I think a lot of bad things happen because people believe in life after death.
So when someone's mom dies, a neurotypical person might say "God rest her soul, she's in heaven now," whereas a person with Asperger's might be thinking "She's not in heaven, she's in the ground being eaten by maggots On the other hand, religious practice in something different entirely.
Being religious and engaging in rituals allows a person to interact with others according to a bunch of preset rules, which is something a person with Asperger's may enjoy. Also, with religion, you just have to react to the sacred texts and rituals; you don't have to initiate the conversation. Actually, extremely orthodox Jewish ritual, if you have ever seen it, is extremely "Aspergian," including the davening.
December 2, at 6: I am a Lutheran Christian to be exact. I go to church every second Sunday and I have found that finding religion, going to church and believing in God has helped calm me down a lot. I used to have anxiety and stress levels that were in the 90s. That is dangerously high! I find that Religion has calmed the constant, torrential even apocalyptic storms in my mind. Now those storms have long quelled and there are blue, sunny skies in my mind. I have a highly creative, imaginative visual mind.
I would love to say more, but I would ramble on. Maybe I'll comment more later: April 25, at I was indoctrinated in pentecostal christianity. When I developed depression in my late teens and was told I needed 'deliverance' exorcism from demons, I started to question my faith. I find the concept of God too abstract. I always felt my 'relationship' with God was one-sided - there was no reply. Christianity messed me up in a lot of ways. May 28, at 6: Toronto SEO Group said….
Goodluck to all of you its a rough road! June 12, at 4: I don't believe in god but i understand why they do. I definitely have AS and I encourage all to connect with someone that understands - you have no chance on your own. Rosemary Lyndall Wemm said…. Aspberger's Syndrome is a disorder of social learning. Religions are passed on by social means. It should come as no surprise that Aspie's do not "learn" the religions of their society particularly well.
Of course, this has serious theological implications as well. If Aspies are created "less equal" in their ability to believe the things that religious followers are convinced are necessary for one's "salvation" or "after life", then what does this say about the morality, personality and characteristics of the god they usually claim to be perfect, all-powerful, just, loving and fair? Falling back on the claim that their particular god is "mysterious" and "beyond human understanding" is a non-answer that then raises serious questions about the believer's ability to claim to know anything at all about their god.
August 20, at 4: Those not on the spectrum are sociopaths that lack a realistic view of time and think of intelligence as quantitative and comparative. They are the only ones that need the mysticism of religion and fascism to handle their "pecking order". The morality of those with Aspergers is based upon Objectivism. We lack goals because we have no death drive as stated by Freudian psychology therefor we are process oriented which infers greater self improvement.
The reason we do not speak is because of the censorship. Social anxiety and peer pressure is something only those off the spectrum feel it is not our burden to bare. Depression or Sadness is caused by events that cause massive social repercussions but by limiting the number of people and leaving the metaphysical talking to your own personal space one can reduce such infinite loops of thought. October 5, at 9: My husband and I are both on the spectrum and had the same experience with religion.
It seems to be a common one for AS folks. We were both quite devout and unquestioning as children. In our teen years, both of us lost our faith and have been atheists since. At 15, Catholicism became nothing more than fables to me, meant to control people. I shed my faith all at once and experienced a feeling of freedom. I have no regrets and have lived a moral life without the questionable benefit of organized religion or dogma. November 6, at 8: Most people I know with Asperger's aren't religious. I don't describe myself as an atheist; I have had spiritual experiences, but nontheless, I can relate to alot of the feelings of atheist Aspies.
The sentimental feelings many neurotypicals have for their religious beliefs don't come easily to me; I tend to view spirituality as more about self-reflection, ritual, and so forth. December 6, at 6: I am a male aspie who is devoutly Christian. I however, am also against organized religion, therefore my religious sect is undefined. I used to be an evolutionist due to the fact that it was taught in Biology class My favorite class when I was in high-school.
However, after my own study into the matter, I found evolution At least in my opinion to be scientifically impossible. If you want to know why, do your own research! Anyway, after I revoked evolution I didn't really believe in anything. Later in my life due to unrelated reasons I went into a deep depression and became suicidal. In a rage I yelled to the christian God Because that was the one I most new about then "If your really out there and 'love' me, prove it! I then proceeded to roll a one. Unconvinced I rolled again, and a one appeared again.
I was now angry and rolled three more times, all of which I rolled a one. Due to the fact that is darn near impossible odds, i know am christian. This is not a story to convert anyone, this is simply a story of how a suicidal aspie became christian after probability got it's symbolic ass kicked. January 2, at 2: I have Aspergers and I'm very religious, in fact Religion is one of my Autistic special interests.
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Because my mind remembers so many theories and ideas being fed to me over the 21 years of my life, my brain was able to piece together whatever made sense, this forming not just a commitment to the faith that I was raised in, but my interest in Religion and the Bible has caused me to study it more and to find reasons. Aspies tend to be rule-based thinkers and we follow rules religiously Abstract thinking in religion helps break an Aspie away from rigid thinking I believe. As a child I would just accept and believe, but as I got older and studied more and connected all the philosophies and sermons and ideas and theories in my mind, I was able to conceptualize God and the Trinity and answers to the tough questions.
I love God and His Word and because of Aspergers in some ways, it could be extremely tough to convince me out of it, because once an Aspie is set on something Check my blog www. April 9, at 2: I am on the spectrum and a catholic. I deeply love my faith but I often feel disconnected to people and don't know how to get into contact with them. It's the typical Aspergers traits concerning social interaction that makes religion difficult for me, because social interaction is at the core of christianity. In fact its all about social interaction: God's with us, and I'm lousy at that.
So, although I belief in God and Jesus that belief never gives me any strength but takes its toll on me, which is very sad. May 15, at 3: I was raised in a Presbyterian church, but it didn't stick. Just another religion, as far as I was concerned. But I believed in God - had to be a God. Not possible for all things to be so interconnected and developed without a God. Would talk with God for hours sometimes, but nothing ever came back.
I can understand how people think He is not there. Oh, He's there all right, but He refuses communication on our terms. You see, we love morality when it works for us, but despise it when it works against us. We love to judge others for willful transgressions, but utterly refuse to own up when it comes to our own. Try owning up to your sin before God and see what kind of response you get with Him then.
If you are really sincere about getting on with Him, you need to check in with His Son and get the lowdown on 1. Who He is, and 2. First, Jesus is God in the flesh. He lived a perfect, holy, and sinless life, then was taken up to heaven with eyewitnesses. Want to try coming up with that one yourself? Fulfilled prophecy is another extremely valid way of discovering if Jesus is a made up character or was really the long-prophecied Jewish Messiah. There are over of them, and it is impossible that they do not center on Jesus of Nazareth.
But I would not have cared anything for these facts were it not for number 2. Jesus is my Savior. So, Asperger people may be more atheistic than most, but they are decidedly not any more sinful. I am 50 years old, and though I was recently diagnosed, my Asperger personality has been around a lot longer than that. Even so, there's nothing more or less resistant about God in an Asperger than in anyone else.
I think, being such black and white thinkers, that in all honesty, they cannot abide with something not accepted all the way. Therefore, if they cannot have God in toto, they confess they do not have Him at all. I was in the same virtual boat, and yet today, I am saved from my sins by Jesus. Get Him right and everything else will fall into place.
May 7, at Thanks for such an interesting blog! I raised my son, who has aspergers, to be a christian. I even sent him to catholic school as a child. Once he was old enough to really think for himself, he became an athiest. I am christian, and as such, I know all I can do is pray for him.
I don't expect him to ever change his beliefs, as I wouldn't want someone trying to change mine. I respect his decision. October 5, at 7: Alsat - if you're still around, would you please contact me? I'd like to ask you about your service as a missionary having Aspergers. However as I have said, when in Steampunk mode Steampunks relate to the world differently from other people.
I remember being startled when I realised that in a whole weekend at the Asylum in Lincoln I had heard not one swearword nor a raised voice. There is something about being a Steampunk that induces courteous behaviour. A Steampunk uses politeness like a shield to parry the unpleasantness of the world and wit the blade to return the blow.
I will not pretend for one moment that Steampunks do not insult each other, but we do so with wit and humour, perhaps some buffoonery so that there is almost as much enjoyment of defeat as pleasure in victory…when the other side scores a try or a six we applaud and enjoy the moment for its own intrinsic artistry. What is saddening about politics at the moment is the depths to which people have sunk in their interactions with each other, people have become nastier, xenphobia, homophobia, and other forms of discrimination and abuse have become commonplace.
People have no embarrassment at being caught in a lie. Respect for the rights and opinions of others is no longer considered important or even desirable, there is no place for old fashioned courtesy. Except in Steampunkery where old fashioned courtesy lies at its heart we do like old fashioned or even an Old Fashioned. One might expect a strong conservative streak in Steampunk because of its embrace of old fashioned courtesy and dress.
However Steampunk cherry picks what it takes from any era and so while embracing the virtues of the past it rejects its vices. Steampunk is undoubtedly trans cultural as can be seen in its Facebook groups, but also at major Steampunk gatherings that attract attendees from all over the world. Our Glasgow Ubiquitous E. Steampunk Society is not only associated with the Music City Steampunk Consortium of Nashville, Tennessee, but has scheduled a jolly day out with the North East Steampunk Society from England now that is true internationalism!
Conservatives may not be very evident in Steampunk, but conservation is. Steampunks have a respect for history especially, as the name suggests, for its technology. Nothing sets the Steampunk blood racing more assuredly than polished brass, well oiled pistons, smoothly turning gears, and the ecstatic call of a locomotive whistle.
However the Steampunk embrace of steam should be interpreted rather as an embrace of the best of contemporary technology, which in Victorian times was steam. I think we should note that Steampunks are equally enamoured of clockwork. The essential thing about the Steampunk attitude is that technology is employed for the good of society. Loveless we all come together in the bar at the end of the day. In Steampunk science is treated with respect and so is scientific method and evidence, some many of our inventions are fanciful, but they can be so because we are aware of the difference between science and superstition and so are free to play with both.
More importantly in Steampunk the urge to conservation manifests itself in an abhorrence of waste, or more accurately a love of recycling and up-cycling.
Steampunk is not part of a disposable society; where civilians dispose, we reuse and re-purpose. I think what sets Steampunk apart politically from much of society is that it is cooperative and sharing. Steampunks are building a better future for all based on the best of the past and that means magnanimity and mutual support. Steampunks help each other, they share their skills and insights, they encourage each other. I think it is safe to say that wherever you observe someone indulging in selfishness, discrimination, misogyny, xenophobia, abuse, or any form of discourtesy the person you are observing is not a Steampunk.
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Steampunks are building a future on the foundation of the most noble values of the past. To put things more simply: We are being told that a terrorist attack on British soil is inevitable.
Surprisingly not in the slightest. Statistically we are all in a lot more danger from dying as a result of an air crash or road accident than at the hands of a terrorist. I am far more concerned that our politicians are going to use the supposed threat of a terrorist attack to further curtail our liberties and to spy upon our every day activities. I am worried that withdrawing from the ECHR will provide the Westminster government with an opportunity to destroy the limited devolution settlement Scotland now enjoys and anxious that it will lead to a further diminution of employment rights.
The threat of Islamic terrorism against targets in the UK is very low on the list of things that concern me. I see the rise of the Right and of post Brexit xenophobia as far more dangerous to the UK than Islamic extremism. I have to admit that I can see no logical reason for fearing death. Death is inevitable and no amount of fear will prevent it, only an idiot fears it. On the other hand it is equally stupid to unnecessarily seek death, except possibly in the face of debilitating illness. The upset of bereavement makes a degree of sense, it is natural to be upset when we lose someone we love.
However death is inevitable and we will inevitably lose people we love, everyone we know will eventually give up this physical body and move on to something else. If all that awaits us is oblivion then there is certainly no logical cause for fear. Last year was marked by the deaths of many much loved celebrities as well as many less widely known benefactors of humanity in various fields, some of whom may have contributed more to the world in practical than even David Bowie.
Keith Richard found alive! No one life is worth more than any other, nor any less. Every life should be celebrated and every death marked with respect. Many of us will die this year. Perhaps some of us by violence, hopefully not.
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The inevitability of our deaths is not cause for anxiety, nor upset. That we must die is an excellent reason for enjoying our lives to the utmost while we have them. We are all as capable of joy as we are of sadness, so why not choose to have fun? Our joy is not caused by our circumstances, but by how we relate to them. My plan for this year is to live every second to the fullest, anything else is a waste of a precious gift. Now I shall retire for the night and probably celebrate Leonard Cohen or Elvis perhaps.
So many lives then and now and each even the worst carries a gift that deserves to be celebrated. I stayed for a week helping Simeon understand the frieze. I returned to Obamapolis and Eva, leaving behind a project that might last for generations. I had expressed my views, it was not for me to try and deny anyone the right to make their own choices. In addition to the full blog posts, the author has included notes that provide insight into details that may have been omitted as well as additional thoughts and considerations.
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