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There's a problem loading this menu right now. Get fast, free shipping with Amazon Prime. Get to Know Us. English Choose a language for shopping. Amazon Music Stream millions of songs. Amazon Advertising Find, attract, and engage customers. Amazon Drive Cloud storage from Amazon. Alexa Actionable Analytics for the Web. Everything that made the first book so good was basically absent from this one. In Dragon Wing , the plot started early, and it was interesting right from the beginning. Political intrigue, backstabbing, revolution, and everything all intertwined into an engrossing, twisty plot.
In Elven Star , the plot took forever to get going, and when it did, it was clunky, awkward, and uninteresting. I mea Don warned me that this was his least favourite book in the series, and yep. I mean, really, giants pretty much destroying the entire world and its population lacks a certain subtlety. And as for the elf, human and dwarf uniting to save the world? That doesn't even make sense. For starters, there never was such a grouping.
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At one point, there was an elf, a dwarf, and two humans, but by the end, it was quite a band, with a few more elves, some humans, and Haplo. And as for saving the world, they made no such attempt. They pretty much just made a run for it and escaped with their own lives. The characters in Dragon Wing were interesting.
They had dimension and depth, and you cared about them. Several of them sort of evolved as you learn new information about who they really were and where they came from. The characters in Elven Star were dull and flat. They turned out to be exactly who and what you thought they were the moment they were introduced. Each of them basically had one dominant personality trait if that , and that's all there was to them. The only one with even any hint of more than one level and we're pretty much talking about two levels here, nothing more profound than that was Aleatha, and she was really more of a secondary character.
And don't even get me started on the great passionate love affair between Paithan and Rega. Sure, I was told often enough by the narrative how much they loved each other, but I never really saw it. I didn't see it develop; it was just all of a sudden there, because the author told me it was.
And despite the great controversy it caused among their respective people he was an elf and she was a human , I felt nothing for it. Be together or don't. There was more depth and genuineness in the brief hints at the attraction between Hugh and Iridal in the final pages of Dragon Wing than there was in the whole book's worth of the Paithan-Rega romance.
Roland and Aleatha, if cliched and also not that interesting, was at least mildly entertaining. In Dragon Wing , the setting was crucial to the plot. Getting from one island to the next was a major issue, and where in the strata of islands one happened to live made a huge impact on one's life. The eternal sun and rain of this world was almost irrelevant for most of the book.
At the beginning, there was a mention of fans, which was just about the only nod to the fact that it's bloody hot on this world. And occasionally, the fact that they have no darkness was brought up, but barely, and it really only became really relevant near the end when they find the citadel, which has night.
I just feel that a world referred to as "Realm of Fire" should be a hell of a lot hotter, maybe even with some actual fire not endless rain. What is that about? In any case, the point is, this story could have taken place just about anywhere, in any setting, and it wouldn't have made any difference. And if you're going to go to the trouble of creating four different worlds, each supposedly with a dominant element, that element should really play into things a whole lot more than it did here.
He wasn't in Dragon Wing , and that alone made it much better.
I'm told that Zifnab is pretty much an inside-joke type nod to a character from the Dragonlance books, and he was a big mistake, as far as I'm concerned. He added nothing except asshattery, and his constant real-earth pop culture references were not cute, funny, or endearing; they were merely stupid. I could maybe almost forgive it if real earth actually came into the picture at some point, but apparently it doesn't, so there's absolutely no excuse, and I dearly hope that Don's right in his recollection that when we see this character again later, he quits that shit.
A bunch of boring characters having a boring adventure on a boring planet, with a character who makes Jar Jar Binks seem awesome? If I ever for some reason find myself re-reading this series, I think I'll skip this one. Anything important will be re-iterated in the subsequent books, so I won't miss anything. One interesting pattern that is either developing or is coincidence: Will that go anywhere? But I'll be watching for it. Jul 29, Dirk Grobbelaar rated it it was ok Shelves: In the first few pages of reading this, at least one thing became apparent: On the other hand, perhaps it was the intention of the authors to reveal the worlds in this fashion, altering reader perceptions with each novel.
There are a number of things that bothered me about Elven Star. The forced humour was something I j In the first few pages of reading this, at least one thing became apparent: Many of the characters annoyed me. No Hugh the Hand this time round. Yet, despite all this I found myself finishing the novel at a trot. Not much wrong with the pacing then.
As was the case with its predecessor, the world building in this novel is truly fascinating. The few tantalising glimpses into the Nexus and the Labyrinth also hinted at awesome-ness. Oh, and the Tytans were super scary and creepy. I really wanted to like Elven Star more. Mar 11, Matthew rated it really liked it. You know, whenever I'm lucky enough to find a reasonably literate person who has read some fantasy novels, I'm always surprised by the fact that - as far as I can recall - none of them have read The Death Gate Cycle. Granted, I had some holdover nostalgia from the Dragonlance Chronicles for Weis and Hickman, and so I probably had more cause to read them than most, but, even solely on their own merits, these are really excellent books.
They're filled with interesting and nuanced characters - Hugh You know, whenever I'm lucky enough to find a reasonably literate person who has read some fantasy novels, I'm always surprised by the fact that - as far as I can recall - none of them have read The Death Gate Cycle.
They're filled with interesting and nuanced characters - Hugh the Hand is still one of my favorite characters ever - and the plotlines are expertly interwoven. The real mastery, though, is in the novels' 5 distinct - geographically, sociologically, politically, ethnically - worlds. People who enjoyed Harry Potter or Tolkein should give these books a shot. Jan 08, Lurino rated it it was amazing.
Zifnab is the best of all crazy mages the Weis-Hickman duo ever came up with. En este mundo conoceremos al delirante mago Zifnab, que parece sacado de una novela de Terry Pratchett.
Seguimos conociendo a Haplo, mientras viaja por los mundos sembrando el caos. Jul 23, Darin rated it it was ok. I like the setting of the Death Gate Cycle with the different worlds.
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However, this novel was not written very well. The plot was very uninspired, the writing seemed amateurish at times, and the character of Zifnab was just annoying. I feel that this book can just be skipped without missing anything. View all 3 comments. De serie wordt voortgezet in een heel nieuwe wereld met een heel nieuwe set personages op 1 na.
Hoewel ik de personages van deel 1 beter vond, was de hele nieuwe wereld met zijn eigen geschiedenis en relatie tussen elf, mens en dwerg erg interessant. Ik ben erg benieuwd hoe de volgende wereld eruit ziet en hoe de geschiedenis van de splitsing van de wereld nou is verlopen. I love the references to other books and sci-fi movies. The dog always provides a little levite and softens the main character. A fun nostalgic read. May 02, Rebeca Adams rated it it was ok.
Mar 13, Chris rated it it was amazing Shelves: Naturally, this creates a planetary greenhouse effect, which causes the jungle-laden surface to sprout mega trees the size of continents. Elves, dwarves, humans, giants, dragons, and one kooky wizard bring balance to a story loaded with contrasting personalities.
The thing that really enhances this book, at least for me, is the coupling of forbidden romance with raw, apocalyptic adventure. One of the most intense passages I've ever read was when the giants first rumbled onto the pages- when Paithan and Rega were trapped on that enormous mushroom. Nov 27, Jim C rated it really liked it. Actual rating is 4. This is the second book of a series and it can be read as a stand alone novel. There is a little background information but not enough that the reader will be lost. That being said, the reader does need to read the first one because they will all eventually tie in with each other.
In this one, Haplo and his dog continue their journey. His journey leads him to Pryan where a looming menace threatens all races. I thought this book was better than the first one and I really Actual rating is 4. I thought this book was better than the first one and I really am enjoying this series.
One thing I am enjoying about this series is that we get two different layers of storytelling. The first layer is concerned with one planet and its inhabitants. We also get a huge overall arc where each book will tie in with each other and during the story we get little hints to this arc. In this character arc, we have three races that include elves, dwarfs, and humans.
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All three races hate each other and we have rampant racism. Can these races put aside their racism or do they risk extinction because of the threat? Obviously, these issues are prevalent in today's society. I have read the reviews on this site and the character Zifnab seems to be a divisive one.
My theory whether one enjoys this character depends if the reader has read these author's other works of Dragonlance. Zifnab is Fizban from that world. If he is new to you I can see why he would be irritating. If you are a fan of Dragonlance you will love him here. This is shaping up to be a great series. The storytelling of a complete arc wrapped in an overall arc that is a mystery is well done and enticing me to continue with this well thought out series. Se aleja en gran medida del hilo narrativo habitual: Apr 21, Heidi rated it really liked it. In book 2 of The Death Gate Cycle, Haplo travels to the second world created after the sundering of the natural world into four components: Pryan is the world of fire.
The world is so lush with vegetation that most people have never seen the ground; they live in cities built on top of moss beds in the treetops. The humans, dwarves, and elves have minor skirmishes with each other but basically keep to their own races. However, an ancient enemy is threatening the lives of In book 2 of The Death Gate Cycle, Haplo travels to the second world created after the sundering of the natural world into four components: However, an ancient enemy is threatening the lives of everyone on the planet, and the races must come together to defeat it.
We get to meet Zifnab, a character who can't quite be defined. Is he a wizard? A crazy old man? Zifnab was my favorite part of the book. His references to modern civilization and other wizards Gandalf, Merlin, the Millennium Falcon, We also get a hint of a kinder, gentler side of Haplo, who tries to be tough but clearly cares more than he's willing to admit. The major characters those that will appear in the next books develop appropriately, while the minor characters are basically just caricatures.
They were appropriate caricatures, though, so I can forgive the authors for not making every character deep and complicated. Jun 09, Charles rated it it was ok. While I like the basis of the story so far in the series the biggest problem I have with this book is the same I had with the first. It's having two authors. One author will describe for example the dragon early in the story and it was describe "He was enormous.